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BENCHREST:
STATEMENTS REGISTERED WITH WEBASSURED, AN
INDEPENDENT CONSUMER ASSURANCE COMPANY:
Compliment from:
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Name: Doc Lisenby
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Date Submitted: October 28, 1998
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I have tried two products
distributed by Shootersolutions: Sweet Shooter and Moly Fusion.
- Sweetshooter is nothing short of miraculous when it comes to preventing rust on several of my
firearms.
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The only way I could prevent rust in my hot humid climate, prior to using Sweetshooter was to
either clean every spot I touched quickly or keep metal surfaces oiled while shooting. One treatment seems to last
for weeks (may be longer, but I'm apprehensive about trying it). I apply it everytime I shoot the firearm and
don't get any messy build-up.
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In combination with the other
product, MolyFusion
in the bore of two of my custom 1000 yd. competition rifles in I shoot moly coated soft
jacket (J4) bullets. I have noticed an elimination of first round "flyers" and a reduction in long range (1000 yds) group size from approximately 11 inches to around 8 inches
average. I recently fired the best group I have ever shot with one of these rifles and it measured .23" for 5 shots at 100 yds.
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I consider this excellent for a 30-cal. bullet traveling at 3000 fps, considering recoil and all the other things that affect
group size.
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I have been shooting in rifle competition for about fifty years and Sweetshooter with Moly-Fusion
have been the least
expensive single items which have improved
accuracy in my rifles.
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Compliment from:
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Name: Doc Lisenby
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Date Submitted: October 28, 1998
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Ralph, I and other Hall action
owners have trouble with Hall actions developing rust
between the bolt and receiver in the absence of no apparent
cause. One shooter commented that it was due to the type
steelused. I don't know but I got tired of it re-appearing
after I cleaned and oiled as I have in the past using
various lubricants and bore cleaners. I had experimented
with Moly-Fusion and Sweetshooter on other rifles and had
been impressed with them in preventing fouling and
rust. I treated my Hall actions
as per the directions furnished and the rust has not shown up for over 6
months and I purposely neglected cleaning to ensure that they were doing the job.
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I am reluctant to accept "marvelous" cleaning devices and chemicals, but both of these live up to the claims made and a plus for BR
rifles is that they don't leave a gummy or oily residue to attract and hold dust and grit.
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I still can't bring myself to try them on the lugs w/o the high pressure grease which we use to prevent galling.
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They may work w/o it, but I just don't have the courage to try them alone. I did treat the lugs with them and they do seem to engage the recesses
smoother. I did notice an improvement in accuracy at 1000 yds by eliminating flyers after treating the bore. I just
built a match rifle on a Rem 40x and I'm having the owner only use Sweetshooter to clean with. I treated it with
Moly-Fusion before it was fired and then went through the Sweetshooter regime when breaking it in. Another
shooter tried the two treatments in his 40X but became illand hasn't fired enough to prove much of anything but
the few shots he did shoot impressed him with the ease of cleaning.
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We are all using moly coated
bullets. Hope this helps.
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Doc Lisenby
From: LONGDISTSHTR Saturday, March 06,1999 9:49 PM
To: Jonathan Doege
Subject: Re: Van's: a favorite.
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I'm getting ready for a thousand yards match March 20.
I have a new shooter 20 yrs. old with good eyes whom I built a rifle for and of course I gave him a can of
Sweetshooter and told him to only use that to clean with. I treated the bore with Moly-fusion, also the
action and he got several comments from his buddies as to how smooth the action functioned. He was mildly
interested in high power shooting so I broke out my old Garand and cleaned the bore then treated it with Moly-Fusion
and Sweetshooter and used 168 gr. Sierra to load it. I don't know which improved the accuracy but I fell in love with it
all over. I can shoot accurately enough at 100 yds. to want to enter this kind of competition again but I'm too old to
get in the positions and in the iron peep sight there is a fuzzy place in the center which blocks out the front sight.
Even so, I put several shots in a three inch bull. When I kept cleaning it every five shots, I kept having to change
the sights to get a new zero. I just started to wipe the bore out with Sweetshooter even tho' it got a lot of metal
fouling and damned if it didn't retain the zero. I was shooting Moly’ed bullets and it still metal fouled.
The pro benchresters are saying not to clean as often and just wipe the bore with Kroil and Shooter's Choice
mix. I believe that Sweetshooter could be a good substitute for this mix. I'm going to keep using it and see
what happens.
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On Bluing, when I said half the price of other cold blues, I was guessing but I know that
44/40 and Oxpho Blue from Brownell is about a buck an ounce. I was referring to the others which are sold over the
counter in Wally World and they are about twice that. The guy who likes Oxpho Blue just hasn't tried anything else. It
is the nearest nothing I've tried. It can't compare with Van's.
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It's 60 degrees here. ha ha. Doc [Lisenby]
Subject: Cold Blue
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Pete my man, I hope you aren't expecting a rust blue finish. Too many people do and are sorely disappointed with the results. All cold blues are to
my knowledge are selenious acid, copper sulphate, and phosphoric acid regardless of the manufacturer. 'smiths and
hobbyists have their favorites for some prejudice or another. Mine is Van's, available from Shooters
Solutions at Shootersolution@mediaone.net This is their e-mail. Call Jonathan Doege at 1-800 232 3258 and
order a quart for less than half the price of others. I first saw Van's in my brother-in-law's gunshop before WWII
and they resumed making it recently, same formulation and just as good as before, I believe.
- Doc Lisenby
- 7/15/99:
Jonathan:
Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. Just wanted to let you know of the satisfaction I have
had with the Molyfusion and the Sweetshooter solutions. I have used them on several guns and have had great success, especially
on the wildcat calibers. I have noticed a tremendous reduction in fouling in my 30-378 Weatherby caliber guns. Please feel free
to use my name as a reference for your roducts.
Sincerely,
Scott Doxey
Trophy Hunter Magazine
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As a side story ....I introduced Sweetshooter to an "ole club M1" here in
Lafayette, Indiana. I cleaned the barrel with JB, Kroil, and Shooters Choice. Once the cleaning was completed (I'm a
former Marine) so cleaning is aggressive. The bore of the ole M1 was not in bad shape, in fact it was in good shape
for a rifle that had been kicked around, dropped, and used a great deal. New members use the club M1's to break in before
ordering NM rifle. You know how that goes! Well, I started to apply only Sweetshooter to the bore and rifle (bolt
lugs.. etc...) on June 1st of this year. I applied a good deal of Sweetshooter to the bolt/receiver area (grooves).
Last Monday, July 12, 1999, I fired 12 strings of 10
rounds from the 300-yd. line in rapid-fire prone position. It was 2 o'clock in the afternoon....80 plus degree heat. The ole rifle performed
the way it had been designed to operate. No jams, no malfunctions at all. Groups were good and scores ranged in
the high 70's and low 80's. I moved my gear to the 200-yard line. Leo J. Melle volunteered to work the pit / target for
me. I did not clean, in fact the rifle had not been cleaned since 6/13/99 after a high power shoot. After the 6/13 shoot
I used only Sweetshooter in the receiver area and the bore was swabbed out with it. I loaded the ole M1 with a match
round from Top Notch Ammo (30-06 Springfield, 150 gr. Nosler Ballistic tip bullet moly
coated, Winchester brass). I fired in the standing position, first round was a 9 at 8, second round was 10 at
1, the third and last round was a 9 at 10.....the ten was close enough I think to an X , but Leo called a 10...., so,
29 or 29-1x...out of 30. Not bad for an "ole M1" treated with Sweetshooter. The group of the three shots.....now remember,
this rifle is "club rifle" ...not a national match rifle machine. This M1 is issue.....nothing has been
done to it. The stock has not been bedded. Looking at the target, Leo and I started to laugh....less than 3 MOA.
A combination of good grade of ammo and Sweetshooter....hey, it made a difference. Plan to keep shooting the "ole
war horse" even after my new Fulton-Armory M1 arrives. Again, I'm very happy with your product and impressed
with their performance. I need more Sweetshooter by the way! I need to order 32oz.bottle of Sweetshooter. Semper Fi –
Lou
Yes, please feel free to use what ever I write to you. With the M1 in question (club rifle), I
also fired a 47-2x that same day of the three shot group of 27-1x. Also, I have been working very diligently on a 1903
Springfield (Remington). Just using the sweetshooter only. Again, Leo was there in the pits when I fired the ole '03. I
was very impressed with the results.... a tight group firedfrom the prone position (200 yards). I agree with you on
your products.... Sweetshooter is very effective! Moly Fusion will be utilized in the '03 and the 1863 Sharps. The
Sharps barrel mikes out at .540, I drop a .543 bullet from the mould. Plan to size down to .541... using Lyman Moly
Bore lube in the rings. If I get key holing.... mike up .001 to .542 the bullet should engage the rifling i.e., lands and
grooves. If not, size up .543 and lower the powder load of 3/f. The ammo for the '03 will come from Top-Notch Ammo
people. 165-gr bullet moly-coated. So, as you can see I'm busy putting your products through the paces. Yes, 8oz cans
are just fine...I prefer the 8oz. cans ... thank you.
Oh..., on the group from the ole '03....well....sorta started out great 30-2x....then
sorta drifted low right....4 and 5 o'clock position. Could not figure it out...fired several more rounds ....
just terrible! Leo came out of the pits and asked what is wrong.... as Leo walked up to me. I handed him the rifle.
He looked at it and laughed...hell Lou you can't shoot a rifle unless the trigger group is screwed down tight. The
screws had backed out 1/3 of the way...I just shook my head.... when you think you know something...you really don't. For
me back to the basic markmanship...check your rifle before you shoot. Excellent products.....Semper Fi (Lou)
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Jonathan,
Just to let you know, I don't always drag my feet, I did apply the Sweetshooter to my new varmint gun (Remington VLS 22-250) per the
instructions this last weekend. I have not shot it since but will start working up a load for it in the next few weeks as long as the weather
holds.
I also had a buddy who did try it in his. He applied it and then shot about 50 more rounds through afterwards working up a load for his
varmint rifle. He examined the barrel afterwards and said it was remarkably clean. He was impressed and looks forward to using it more.
Sorry, but we haven't got to play with the Molyfusion yet. I have plans on applying it to one of my 22 rifles I shoot quite a bit. I'll
let you know how that one turns out and keep you posted. Looks to be pretty amazing stuff!!
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Thanks,
T.W. Perry, Oklahoma
5/4/99
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What a coincidence! A buddy and I just got back last night from a 4 day prairie dog hunt. Both
of us had brand new heavy barrel varmint rifles that were capable of shooting ragged 1-hole groups. We treated the
barrels exactly as the instructions said with the Sweetshooter product. I then worked up a load for the rifle
and sighted it in. We shot each gun a minimum of 150 rounds each and inspected the barrels after we finished yesterday
afternoon. The barrels were remarkably clean and shiny. All that was in the barrel was a very small amount of powder
residue in both barrels. We couldn't believe it! We haven't cleaned the guns yet and I see no need at this point to do
so. I will continue shooting it and logging rounds and accuracy groups with it and monitoring it as time
progresses. I'm also going to go back and treat all my guns with this stuff. It's truly amazing.
As for the MolyFusion. My buddy used it in his 22 Win Mag. He coated the bore with the SweetShooter first and then put the MolyFusion on top of
that. We shot our 22's about 400 time each this weekend. My 22 mag was not treated with anything and it ended up
noticeably dirtier than his. Both 22 mags were Marlin 882SSV's.
Jonathan, please feel free to use my testimony to promote your products. This is truly amazing stuff. Thanks for your patience on my feedback. I'll keep
you posted when I get new results.
T W, Perry, OK
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 12:34 PM
Jonathan,
The application procedure we used on the SweetShooter for our varmint rifles was to coat the barrel with a good, wet
application and stroke the barrel about 10 times. We then shot the gun and repeated the application until it we had
fired 20 shots. We used a cleaning patch as the transfer medium and a cleaning rod. The only downside that there may
be to this process is that you have to be out on the range to fire the gun. Other than that, it should overcome all the
other downsides.
My buddy only used the Moly-Fusion product on his .22Mag not SweetShooter. The gritty details is that he heated the
barrel slightly with a propane torch and applied it as the instructions directed. he used the foamy material supplied
with the kit and kept swabbing the bore for 10 minutes.
By the way, I have heard of something like this being used in Jeff Gordon's car, but haven't heard any more
details. He was obviously doing more than anyone else.
T W
Perry, OK
Hello Jonathan
Nice to hear from you. I
dit get the MolyFusion and the Sweetshooters as ordered. Thank your for your prompt service. I did not let it
gather any dust, but alas Gunsmiths seem to run on a different calandar than Gun Nuts. I only got my rifle
back a couple of weeks ago, and not in time for my first trip this Winter. Any way upon receiving the rifle I
gave it a thorough cleaning and then gave three treatments of MOLYFUSION. I have no idea whether the
MolyFusion "took" or not as I could not see any visible difference in the appearance of the bore. BY
THE WAY THE BARREL IS NEW STAINLESS. I then took a supply of Winchester factory Supreme Failsafe Ammo to
the range to run in the new barrel. THE MAIN THING THAT STRUCK ME DURING THE RUN IN PROCESS OTHER THAN FOULING
WAS VERY VERY MINIMAL AND CLEANING WAS VERY EASY, WAS THAT THE BARREL DID NOT GET HOT AT
ALL. This is a Sporter Barrel of standard Remington dimensions. The Primers said LOW PRESSURE, and head expansion was virtually
IMMEASURABLE with dial calipers. I wish I could say accuracy was good but I
could not. Upos returning home I examined the bore, bedding, etc, but could
not find a reason for the figure 8 groups.While looking at the
new WINCHESTER FACTORY SUPREME AMMO I NOTICED THAT THERE APPEARED TO BE TWO
DIFFERENT BULLETS LOADED IN THE CARTRIDGES! I pulled the bullets and sure enough
the BULLETS WERE OF DIFFERENT SHAPE. I then sorted through all
the cartridges, Lo and behold there was a roughly 50/50/SPLIT
OF CARTRIDGES loaded with each bullet. these cartridges were from the SAME lot and
case. I then made up some hand loads using Moly coated Barnes X
Bullets AND RETURNED TO THE RANGE. BARNES X BULLETS ARE NOT
NOTED FOR THEIR MATCH ACCURACY OR THEIR SUITABILITY FOR HIGH VELOCITY/LOW PRESSURE LOADS. HOW
EVER GOING BY THE RESULTS I GOT DURING THIS RANGE SESSION
I WILL DEFINITELY BE EXPLORING THIS COMBINATION FURTHER. EVEN FULL THROTTLE LOADS LISTED
IN THE MANUALS SHOWED NO SIGNS OF HIGH PRESSURE. AND AGAIN CLEANING WAS A
SNAP! GROUPS SHRUNK TO AROUND AN 1" AND THE FIGURE 8 SHAPE DISAPPEARED, AND THE BARREL WAS ONLY WARM EVEN AFTER
5 shot strings! CLEANING at the range was accomplished using SWEETSHOOTER, AND AFTER
100 RNDS. SWEETS 7.62 COPPER SOLVENT WAS USED TO CLEAN ANY COPPER FOULING left from the BARNES pure copper bullets. SWEETS 7.62 is an excellent copper
solvent and an EXCELLENT indicator of the amount of COPPER fouling there is in a bore as your patches come out in VARYING SHADES OF BLUE depending on the amount of
copper in the bore. YOUR MOLYFUSION/SWEETSHOOTER combination MUST BE doing the right thing AS MY FIRST PATCH CAME OUT PALE BLUE and a second one showed NO COPPER AT ALL!! WE ARE HEADING FOR THE HILLS in two weeks time. ... I MUST SAY THAT INITIAL IMPRESSIONS ARE VERY
GOOD. BY THEN I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO ORDER M0RE OF YOUR SWEETSHOOTER!
ANY FURTHER INFO WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED
Sincerely Yours, LEE
(CAPS use are Customer's.)
I applied Moly Fusion and Sweet Shooter to
the bore of my new Shilen 29" 300 win mag barrel. It is a select match grade stainless barrel 1.2" straight
cyl. with a 1 in 15" twist. Having never shot it without the treatment I cannot say if it made any difference. However, I was able to develop a load
that pushes 150 grain bullets to 3641 fps and prints 0.500" 3 shot groups @ 100 yards consistently. Last weekend my dad and I were busting one gallon
water jugs at 500 yards! I've yet to develop a load for best accuracy, I've been having too much fun shooting long range with this one. I don't think
the 300 win is capable of much better until I reload the once fired brass and get a competition seating die. Here are the load specs:
Bullet: Berger 150gr Flat Base HP, Moly Coated Powder: IMR 4350, 77.3gr
Bullet Seating: Off the rifling 1/32"
Velocity: 20 shot average 3641 fps
Standard
Deviation: 19 fps
Signs Of
Pressure: High, firing pin dimple slightly extruded into pin hole on the bolt face. Primer is very flat.
I applied Moly Fusion and Sweet Shooter to a Cold Steel Carbon V knife
blade. Using the instructions, I applied the Sweet Shooter three times
allowing it to dry between applications. After a week I put a thump print
on the side of the blade, no rust yet after a month! I live on the Texas
gulf coast where this blade will rust overnight if it is unprotected. Great
Stuff!
Hopefully within a month or two I will be able to test them in my .243 for
some before and after data. So far though, I'm very impressed!
Thanks, J H
Comments:
Well, at the very least, you can see that
Moly-coated bullets are compatable with the MolyFusion/Sweetshoooter
experiments to-date in long distance shooting. Also the above
customers who have used these products together are ecstatic. One
customer wrote back in all-Caps, I sign of exuberance, I presume.
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